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Proximity to Russia as proxy for foreign policy experience

August 31, 2008

Apparently, since Alaska is very close to Russia, then Gov. Palin, now McCain’s running soul mate, has sufficient foreign policy experience to take over as commander-in-chief if 72 year-old McCain becomes incapacitated.

Here’s what Cindy McCain says when ABC’s George Stephanopoulos asks her about it:

STEPHANOPOULOS: But she has no national security experience.

CINDY McCAIN: You know, the experience that she comes from is what she’s done in government, and remember, Alaska is the closest part of our continent to Russia. It’s not as if she doesn’t understand what’s at stake here.

She must have got this nugget of wisdom from one of America’s most intelligent foreign policy experts, Steve Doocy, of Fox News. When discussing the fact that Joe Biden (Obama’s running mate) has been chairman of the Foreign Relations Committee in the U.S. Senate, Doocy says this about Gov. Palin:

But the other thing about her, she does know about international relations because she is right up there in Alaska right next door to Russia

Huh. Interesting. Well, since proximity to Russia is all that is needed to command the mightiest military in the world, let’s take a closer look (all distances calculated in GoogleEarth and in miles).

Juneau to Russia (map from GoogleEarth)

If you’re the governor of Alaska you hang out in the capital, Juneau. This is approximately 1,230 miles from the closest point in Russia (Cape Dezhnev along the Bering Straight). Perhaps Palin spends most of her time doing business in Cape Prince of Wales, which is also on the Bering Straight and ~53 miles from Cape Dezhnev. I’m gonna go out on a limb and say she doesn’t … if you can prove me wrong, please put in comments below.

Hmmm … but, wait … doing some foreign policy and stuff might mean interacting with people in the Russian government, not just being near the easternmost point in an essentially uninhabitated part of the continent.

Juneau to Moscow (map from GoogleEarth)

So, if you are in Juneau and you want to do some foreign policy-ing and what not, you’d probably interact with some folks in the Russian capital, Moscow. Turns out that Moscow is approximately 4,470 miles from Juneau (as the crow flies).

Well … since proximity is a proxy for sufficient foreign policy experience (it is! Fox News said so, leave it alone!), let’s see how close Mr. fancy-pants Obama is to Moscow!

Washington, D.C. to Moscow (image from GoogleEarth)

Washington, D.C. to Moscow (map from GoogleEarth)

Since Obama is a senator (as is his running mate Biden), he has an office in Washington, D.C., which means he is a mere 4,865 miles away from Moscow.

A ha! Juneau is 395 miles (or ~8%) closer to Moscow than Washington, D.C.!! That’s way closer … ha ha Obama/Biden … you guys are suckers with your serious and comprehensive platform. I want the lady who is closer to Russia … she’s way better at doing the foreign policy stuff.

Clearly.

UPDATE (9/3/2008): Wow, McCain himself is using the proximity argument now too!! Unreal.

UPDATE (9/13/2008): I wrote this post right after it happened the first time (~2 weeks ago) thinking it was so ridiculous that would be my one shot to make snarky comments … but they’re still making this argument:

GIBSON: What insight into Russian actions, particularly in the last couple of weeks, does the proximity of the state give you?

PALIN: They’re our next door neighbors and you can actually see Russia from land here in Alaska, from an island in Alaska.

Amazing.

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12 Comments leave one →
  1. September 1, 2008 2:24 am

    On the other hand, the percentage of the American population who can find either Russia or Alaska on a map has probably just doubled…

  2. September 1, 2008 3:57 am

    *lol*

  3. September 1, 2008 8:13 am

    Hah! Great post! The mind truly boggles.

  4. September 1, 2008 1:26 pm

    Governor Palin has some experience commanding the Alaskan National Gaurd during times of inactive federal service. That’s about the same level of executive military experience that Bill Clinton had before he became president in 1992, while he was still Governor of Arkansas commanding the Arkansas National Gaurd during periods of inactive federal service. Obama is just a senator with 4 years of active campaigning, 2 years of semi-active legislative experience and no executive experience whatsoever.

    http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/agency/army/arng-ak.htm

    http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/agency/army/arng-ar.htm

  5. September 1, 2008 1:44 pm

    quantum_flux … such a serious response to a sarcastic post, hit a nerve, eh?

  6. September 1, 2008 2:49 pm

    How far is Juneau from Canada?

  7. September 1, 2008 3:18 pm

    quantum_flux … regarding citing the Alaska Nat’l Guard stuff, here’s some relevant info (link here
    ):

    “…in an interview with The Associated Press on Sunday, [Maj. Gen. Craig Campbell, adjutant general of the Alaska National Guard] said he and Palin play no role in national defense activities, even when they involve the Alaska National Guard. The entire operation is under federal control, and the governor is not briefed on situations.”

    But, again, this post isn’t about debating qualifications of candidates … you can bring up Clinton, Obama, and whatever others you want (presumably other Democrats from the looks of it) … this is about the ridiculous lengths Palin supporters are going to deflect criticism (i.e., the proximity argument). It’s funny, that’s the point … at least it’s funny to me.

  8. September 1, 2008 9:47 pm

    My apologies for the response. Funny post though.

  9. translegalhistorian permalink
    September 2, 2008 11:02 pm

    Great post.

    Sadly, I have to agree with Lab Lemming.

  10. TLM permalink
    September 21, 2008 8:59 pm

    I love it. I was doing a google search to look up how close Juneau was to Moscow vs. DC – because I couldn’t swallow the “proximity” gaff – and found your blog.

    Good work!

  11. September 22, 2008 6:59 am

    I think they missed an opportunity – you can practically throw a rock into Canada from Juneau! ;)

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