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	<title>Comments on: Wake up, America &#8230; and stop looking for a scapegoat</title>
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		<title>By: BrianR</title>
		<link>http://clasticdetritus.com/2008/05/21/wake-up-america-and-stop-looking-for-a-scapegoat/#comment-3650</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 17:37:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Perhaps I&#039;ll put a post together soon ... but to address the American resource nationalists that will begin to piss and moan that only if we were allowed to drill ANWR and the OCS, then everything would be okay ... if you use the numbers from the USGS resource assessment (2000), those reserves would give us another couple decades of oil at our current rate of consumption. I might have to re-look at these numbers, but my guess is that they&#039;re not too different. Sure ... a couple decades would be useful, but does absolutely nothing for the long term. I have a feeling will end up developing those areas anyway, but it is certainly NOT the answer to our energy problems ... not by a long shot.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps I&#8217;ll put a post together soon &#8230; but to address the American resource nationalists that will begin to piss and moan that only if we were allowed to drill ANWR and the OCS, then everything would be okay &#8230; if you use the numbers from the USGS resource assessment (2000), those reserves would give us another couple decades of oil at our current rate of consumption. I might have to re-look at these numbers, but my guess is that they&#8217;re not too different. Sure &#8230; a couple decades would be useful, but does absolutely nothing for the long term. I have a feeling will end up developing those areas anyway, but it is certainly NOT the answer to our energy problems &#8230; not by a long shot.</p>
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		<title>By: BrianR</title>
		<link>http://clasticdetritus.com/2008/05/21/wake-up-america-and-stop-looking-for-a-scapegoat/#comment-3647</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[BrianR]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 04:51:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Adam ... good points. A problem I&#039;m currently facing is my work is out in the &#039;burbs, but I&#039;d rather live in an urban place because I can walk to the market, cleaners, movies, etc. ... but, then I still have to get myself to work 5 days a week. Right now it&#039;s combo of commuter train/bus and driving. This is a conundrum because if I were to move near work and cut down that commute, then I&#039;d be in the &#039;burbs and have to drive everywhere. But, I am aware of the conundrum ... I suppose that&#039;s something.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adam &#8230; good points. A problem I&#8217;m currently facing is my work is out in the &#8216;burbs, but I&#8217;d rather live in an urban place because I can walk to the market, cleaners, movies, etc. &#8230; but, then I still have to get myself to work 5 days a week. Right now it&#8217;s combo of commuter train/bus and driving. This is a conundrum because if I were to move near work and cut down that commute, then I&#8217;d be in the &#8216;burbs and have to drive everywhere. But, I am aware of the conundrum &#8230; I suppose that&#8217;s something.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam R. Paul</title>
		<link>http://clasticdetritus.com/2008/05/21/wake-up-america-and-stop-looking-for-a-scapegoat/#comment-3646</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Adam R. Paul]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 04:34:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Indeed, indeed.  On the one hand I am happy to see more attention (or at least lip service) paid to being &quot;green,&quot; but on the other, it&#039;s very depressing that virtually every green solution that I see being marketed has more to do with getting people to buy something new or different than it does with changing patterns of use.

I know for me, I drive little, and most of my driving is for leisure, so the price of gas matters less to me - I just do my hiking &amp; birdwatching closer to home, or suck it up.

It&#039;s a bummer for those who bought into the suburban &quot;dream&quot; of a 2500 sq ft home and a 50 mile commute, but IMO that&#039;s not a sustainable community arrangement.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Indeed, indeed.  On the one hand I am happy to see more attention (or at least lip service) paid to being &#8220;green,&#8221; but on the other, it&#8217;s very depressing that virtually every green solution that I see being marketed has more to do with getting people to buy something new or different than it does with changing patterns of use.</p>
<p>I know for me, I drive little, and most of my driving is for leisure, so the price of gas matters less to me &#8211; I just do my hiking &amp; birdwatching closer to home, or suck it up.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a bummer for those who bought into the suburban &#8220;dream&#8221; of a 2500 sq ft home and a 50 mile commute, but IMO that&#8217;s not a sustainable community arrangement.</p>
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		<title>By: Lab Lemming</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lab Lemming]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 23:56:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You know, it might be fun to start a new google earth game where people can pick a random spot on the planet, and somebody keen (like us) can tell them the oil prospectivity and exploration history.

For Australia, this wouldn&#039;t be too hard, since the data is fairly well available (leases come with strict reporting requirements).  Not sure about the rest of the world.

Although environmentalists may increase prices by restricting supply, they also reduce demand, which lowers prices.  So every time you see somebody riding a bike to work, that person is making your gasoline cheaper.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know, it might be fun to start a new google earth game where people can pick a random spot on the planet, and somebody keen (like us) can tell them the oil prospectivity and exploration history.</p>
<p>For Australia, this wouldn&#8217;t be too hard, since the data is fairly well available (leases come with strict reporting requirements).  Not sure about the rest of the world.</p>
<p>Although environmentalists may increase prices by restricting supply, they also reduce demand, which lowers prices.  So every time you see somebody riding a bike to work, that person is making your gasoline cheaper.</p>
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		<title>By: BrianR</title>
		<link>http://clasticdetritus.com/2008/05/21/wake-up-america-and-stop-looking-for-a-scapegoat/#comment-3643</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[BrianR]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 23:41:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Matt says:

&quot;It’s so called Environmentalist who have put us in this position of rising energy costs.&quot;

I completely disagree. In fact, the whole point of this post was that placing blame entirely on one &quot;side&quot; does nothing. But, I guess you missed that. 

First of all, the article you link to claims we are going into a global cooling period (by linking to a blog post that cites Monckton, nice try). Right off the bat, this whole viewpoint is suspect. Secondly, and more importantly, that jaajoe.com article strikes a very bizarre anti-energy conservation tone. What is up with that? What happened to &#039;a penny saved is a penny earned&#039;? So, demand should increase infinitely only to be matched by increased supply, no matter what the consequences?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt says:</p>
<p>&#8220;It’s so called Environmentalist who have put us in this position of rising energy costs.&#8221;</p>
<p>I completely disagree. In fact, the whole point of this post was that placing blame entirely on one &#8220;side&#8221; does nothing. But, I guess you missed that. </p>
<p>First of all, the article you link to claims we are going into a global cooling period (by linking to a blog post that cites Monckton, nice try). Right off the bat, this whole viewpoint is suspect. Secondly, and more importantly, that jaajoe.com article strikes a very bizarre anti-energy conservation tone. What is up with that? What happened to &#8216;a penny saved is a penny earned&#8217;? So, demand should increase infinitely only to be matched by increased supply, no matter what the consequences?</p>
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		<title>By: Alec</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alec]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 23:02:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I love reading your posts on oil.  It&#039;s all the information that I&#039;d like to know but I&#039;m too lazy/busy to research.

I agree that we use waaaay too much oil here in America.  Just a few interesting things that I&#039;ve picked up from somewhere (I don&#039;t have the sources for these):

The largest consumer of Diesel is the US Armed Forces.  They have to power all their equipment and ships somehow, right?

We could cut out consuming tens of millions of barrels of oil every year if we quit producing plastic bags (the kind for WalMart, etc).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love reading your posts on oil.  It&#8217;s all the information that I&#8217;d like to know but I&#8217;m too lazy/busy to research.</p>
<p>I agree that we use waaaay too much oil here in America.  Just a few interesting things that I&#8217;ve picked up from somewhere (I don&#8217;t have the sources for these):</p>
<p>The largest consumer of Diesel is the US Armed Forces.  They have to power all their equipment and ships somehow, right?</p>
<p>We could cut out consuming tens of millions of barrels of oil every year if we quit producing plastic bags (the kind for WalMart, etc).</p>
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		<title>By: Silver Fox</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 22:35:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Brian, I agree with your post entirely - and placing blame here and there doesn&#039;t accomplish a thing. Producers won&#039;t produce if consumers don&#039;t consume. Corollary: just because something is produced doesn&#039;t mean you have to buy it!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brian, I agree with your post entirely &#8211; and placing blame here and there doesn&#8217;t accomplish a thing. Producers won&#8217;t produce if consumers don&#8217;t consume. Corollary: just because something is produced doesn&#8217;t mean you have to buy it!</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://clasticdetritus.com/2008/05/21/wake-up-america-and-stop-looking-for-a-scapegoat/#comment-3640</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Matt]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 21:18:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s so called Environmentalist who have put us in this position of rising energy costs. Any  solution has been shot down by propaganda. Check out this article &lt;a href=&quot;http://jaajoe.com/index.php?option=com_content&amp;task=view&amp;id=50&amp;Itemid=28&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;don&#039;t drill for oil and no nuclear power&lt;/a&gt;. It&#039;s ridiculous what there doing to us.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s so called Environmentalist who have put us in this position of rising energy costs. Any  solution has been shot down by propaganda. Check out this article <a href="http://jaajoe.com/index.php?option=com_content&amp;task=view&amp;id=50&amp;Itemid=28" rel="nofollow">don&#8217;t drill for oil and no nuclear power</a>. It&#8217;s ridiculous what there doing to us.</p>
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		<title>By: Tuff Cookie</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tuff Cookie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 20:54:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hear, hear! 

I have friends in England who are utterly - and correctly - astonished by how much we drive in America, and how little we use public transportation. The state of our public transportation might have something to do with it, but that definitely doesn&#039;t excuse us.

I was bitterly disappointed to find out that Toyota once made an entirely electric RAV4, but discontinued it because of &quot;lack of interest&quot;. Hey! &lt;i&gt;I&#039;m&lt;/i&gt; interested.

Unfortunately, I&#039;m also not in any position financially to avail myself of cleaner technology on that scale. I especially won&#039;t be once I start grad school. CF bulbs I can do, but not cars. I&#039;ll bike as often as I can, but something tells me that&#039;s not going to work too well in a Buffalo winter.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hear, hear! </p>
<p>I have friends in England who are utterly &#8211; and correctly &#8211; astonished by how much we drive in America, and how little we use public transportation. The state of our public transportation might have something to do with it, but that definitely doesn&#8217;t excuse us.</p>
<p>I was bitterly disappointed to find out that Toyota once made an entirely electric RAV4, but discontinued it because of &#8220;lack of interest&#8221;. Hey! <i>I&#8217;m</i> interested.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, I&#8217;m also not in any position financially to avail myself of cleaner technology on that scale. I especially won&#8217;t be once I start grad school. CF bulbs I can do, but not cars. I&#8217;ll bike as often as I can, but something tells me that&#8217;s not going to work too well in a Buffalo winter.</p>
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