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	<title>Comments on: Bakken Formation petroleum resources &#8211; a few words about types of resources</title>
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		<title>By: BrianR</title>
		<link>http://clasticdetritus.com/2008/04/19/bakken-formation-petroleum-reserves-a-few-words-about-types-of-reserves/#comment-5142</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[BrianR]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2009 18:25:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[OilyHands says: &quot;Your statement that all the oil not produced by international oil companies is produced byu national OCs is false. Local independents in the US produce large volumes of oil and gas...&quot;

The report I linked to at the bottom of the post states:
&quot;The [Baker Institute for Policy] report notes that 77 percent of world oil reserves are in the hands of national oil companies and that the major international oil companies now control less than 10 percent of the world&#039;s oil and natural gas resource base, with the remaining part of reserves controlled by partnerships between national oil companies and international companies.&quot;

That leaves ~13-15% (depending on how much less than 10% they mean) not attributed to NOCs or major IOCs. So, sure ... not all of it. But, within the context of a global resource assessment, that amount is not huge. I&#039;m not saying it&#039;s not significant for those smaller producers ... but within the larger context it&#039;s not much. Furthermore, that&#039;s global ... how much of that remaining percentage is just U.S. independents?

This is from this report ... if you have information from a different study that has different numbers, please link to it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OilyHands says: &#8220;Your statement that all the oil not produced by international oil companies is produced byu national OCs is false. Local independents in the US produce large volumes of oil and gas&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>The report I linked to at the bottom of the post states:<br />
&#8220;The [Baker Institute for Policy] report notes that 77 percent of world oil reserves are in the hands of national oil companies and that the major international oil companies now control less than 10 percent of the world&#8217;s oil and natural gas resource base, with the remaining part of reserves controlled by partnerships between national oil companies and international companies.&#8221;</p>
<p>That leaves ~13-15% (depending on how much less than 10% they mean) not attributed to NOCs or major IOCs. So, sure &#8230; not all of it. But, within the context of a global resource assessment, that amount is not huge. I&#8217;m not saying it&#8217;s not significant for those smaller producers &#8230; but within the larger context it&#8217;s not much. Furthermore, that&#8217;s global &#8230; how much of that remaining percentage is just U.S. independents?</p>
<p>This is from this report &#8230; if you have information from a different study that has different numbers, please link to it.</p>
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		<title>By: Oily Hands</title>
		<link>http://clasticdetritus.com/2008/04/19/bakken-formation-petroleum-reserves-a-few-words-about-types-of-reserves/#comment-5141</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2009 18:10:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Your statement that all the oil not produced by international oil companies is produced byu national OCs is false. Local independents (Mom &amp; Pops) in the US produce large volumes of oil and gas and are small-business people who are disrespected by lumping them in with the big boys. DOn&#039;t they have a right to make a living, or does the left reserve the right to tell us all what ways we may use to make a living?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your statement that all the oil not produced by international oil companies is produced byu national OCs is false. Local independents (Mom &amp; Pops) in the US produce large volumes of oil and gas and are small-business people who are disrespected by lumping them in with the big boys. DOn&#8217;t they have a right to make a living, or does the left reserve the right to tell us all what ways we may use to make a living?</p>
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		<title>By: Alec</title>
		<link>http://clasticdetritus.com/2008/04/19/bakken-formation-petroleum-reserves-a-few-words-about-types-of-reserves/#comment-3476</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alec]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 01:56:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey Brian, thanks for this very informative post!  I&#039;ve heard some about this gigantic oil deposit waiting to be tapped thus freeing us from the bonds of overseas oil.

I didn&#039;t know the USGS put out such informative and easily digestable material.  Your post really put into perspective the viability of tapping that deposit.  

Now, when I go to work, I can debate with everyone and really squash their hopes.  lol.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Brian, thanks for this very informative post!  I&#8217;ve heard some about this gigantic oil deposit waiting to be tapped thus freeing us from the bonds of overseas oil.</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t know the USGS put out such informative and easily digestable material.  Your post really put into perspective the viability of tapping that deposit.  </p>
<p>Now, when I go to work, I can debate with everyone and really squash their hopes.  lol.</p>
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		<title>By: Lab Lemming</title>
		<link>http://clasticdetritus.com/2008/04/19/bakken-formation-petroleum-reserves-a-few-words-about-types-of-reserves/#comment-3444</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lab Lemming]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Apr 2008 06:53:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m saying that if all the exploration companies that make failed or subeconomic discoveries properly report their findings to the USGS (or whoever keeps track of such things) as part of their tenement rental, then the USGS doesn&#039;t have to do assessments- they can just collate the data they have on file, as private companies have already done the work (and spent the money).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m saying that if all the exploration companies that make failed or subeconomic discoveries properly report their findings to the USGS (or whoever keeps track of such things) as part of their tenement rental, then the USGS doesn&#8217;t have to do assessments- they can just collate the data they have on file, as private companies have already done the work (and spent the money).</p>
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		<title>By: BrianR</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[BrianR]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Apr 2008 06:40:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think were mixing up two things here ... above I&#039;m talking about (1) the USGS as an entity for resource assessment, and (2) state-run oil companies in a global sense.

I&#039;m not talking about the USGS being equivalent to an entity of &#039;what to look for when&#039; ... that&#039;s not up to them. I&#039;m not talking about an assessment for company X to decided to spend/make money, i&#039;m talking about an assessment that is important for a bigger picture perspective of energy resources as a whole. The only way to get a sense of the whole is to look at all the little pieces. I still don&#039;t understand why you think this is either wrong or a waste of time.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think were mixing up two things here &#8230; above I&#8217;m talking about (1) the USGS as an entity for resource assessment, and (2) state-run oil companies in a global sense.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not talking about the USGS being equivalent to an entity of &#8216;what to look for when&#8217; &#8230; that&#8217;s not up to them. I&#8217;m not talking about an assessment for company X to decided to spend/make money, i&#8217;m talking about an assessment that is important for a bigger picture perspective of energy resources as a whole. The only way to get a sense of the whole is to look at all the little pieces. I still don&#8217;t understand why you think this is either wrong or a waste of time.</p>
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		<title>By: Lab Lemming</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lab Lemming]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Apr 2008 06:16:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Why not? You don’t think a national, or even global, assessment of resources, from a geologic point of view, from a single evaluator is useful? I think it’s very useful for forecasting (or attempting to) global energy scenarios.&quot;

Assuming a semi-decent regulatory regime, exploration companies will pay money to lease ground and tell the government what they find there as part of the exploration conditions.  As an example, the sub-economic X deposit that we spent last year drilling has been sent to the relevant geologic survey, and will become publicly available information whenever we relinquish the ground.  Anyone curious about sub economic resources can then dig through the data and put the numbers together themselves.  While they may not be super accurate, anyone who thinks a region is with looking at in greater detail can pick up the land and do a more thorough assessment (this is currently happening for Phosphorous).

So giving the government a regulatory and archival role instead of being a state-run exploration company means that you raise revenue instead of expending it, and it means that the decision-making of what to look for when and how hard is made at the entrepreneurial level, instead of my bureaucrats far removed from the actual rocks.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Why not? You don’t think a national, or even global, assessment of resources, from a geologic point of view, from a single evaluator is useful? I think it’s very useful for forecasting (or attempting to) global energy scenarios.&#8221;</p>
<p>Assuming a semi-decent regulatory regime, exploration companies will pay money to lease ground and tell the government what they find there as part of the exploration conditions.  As an example, the sub-economic X deposit that we spent last year drilling has been sent to the relevant geologic survey, and will become publicly available information whenever we relinquish the ground.  Anyone curious about sub economic resources can then dig through the data and put the numbers together themselves.  While they may not be super accurate, anyone who thinks a region is with looking at in greater detail can pick up the land and do a more thorough assessment (this is currently happening for Phosphorous).</p>
<p>So giving the government a regulatory and archival role instead of being a state-run exploration company means that you raise revenue instead of expending it, and it means that the decision-making of what to look for when and how hard is made at the entrepreneurial level, instead of my bureaucrats far removed from the actual rocks.</p>
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		<title>By: Kim</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kim]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Apr 2008 01:40:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Natural gas from fractured rock has become a big deal (Marcellus Shale, Barnett Shale, plus all the coal-bed methane out there). But that&#039;s methane, not oil. Does anyone get oil out of rock with permeability that&#039;s mostly fractures? I&#039;m not talking about hydro-fracturing - the natural joints in the Marcellus sound like they&#039;re really important for recovery of the methane.

I&#039;ve been wondering what to make of the Bakken news releases, and have wondered whether unconventional oil has become economic in the way that unconventional natural gas has. It sounds like it&#039;s economic potential is still theoretical, at this point.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Natural gas from fractured rock has become a big deal (Marcellus Shale, Barnett Shale, plus all the coal-bed methane out there). But that&#8217;s methane, not oil. Does anyone get oil out of rock with permeability that&#8217;s mostly fractures? I&#8217;m not talking about hydro-fracturing &#8211; the natural joints in the Marcellus sound like they&#8217;re really important for recovery of the methane.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been wondering what to make of the Bakken news releases, and have wondered whether unconventional oil has become economic in the way that unconventional natural gas has. It sounds like it&#8217;s economic potential is still theoretical, at this point.</p>
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		<title>By: BrianR</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[BrianR]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Apr 2008 01:15:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;I don’t see the purpose of the government quantifying sub economic resources.&quot;

Why not? You don&#039;t think a national, or even global, assessment of resources, from a geologic point of view, from a single evaluator is useful? I think it&#039;s very useful for forecasting (or attempting to) global energy scenarios.

Plus, you say &#039;once the technology is developed&#039; ... why would someone work towards developing technology if they were not aware of potential opportunities (as a result of the assessment of sub-economic resources)?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I don’t see the purpose of the government quantifying sub economic resources.&#8221;</p>
<p>Why not? You don&#8217;t think a national, or even global, assessment of resources, from a geologic point of view, from a single evaluator is useful? I think it&#8217;s very useful for forecasting (or attempting to) global energy scenarios.</p>
<p>Plus, you say &#8216;once the technology is developed&#8217; &#8230; why would someone work towards developing technology if they were not aware of potential opportunities (as a result of the assessment of sub-economic resources)?</p>
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		<title>By: Lab Lemming</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lab Lemming]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Apr 2008 00:47:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;So, should we start putting all our efforts to recover this resource? &quot;

Who do you mean by &quot;we&quot;?  If some enterprising inventor wan&#039;t to form a start-up based on a new. clever, low-cost way of extracting oil, that&#039;s great.

I might even buy 50 bucks of his 5 cent shares, on the off chance he actually does something useful.

The bigger more mature oil companies may choose to invest or not in his work using a more quantitative economic model.

I don&#039;t see the purpose of the government quantifying sub economic resources. Once the technology is developed, then the developer can hire exploration companies to do that sort of thing.  That&#039;s like, our job.

As for state-owned companies vs private ones, developments like the Chinese interest in buying a 10% stake in BHP means that those lines are starting to blur.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;So, should we start putting all our efforts to recover this resource? &#8221;</p>
<p>Who do you mean by &#8220;we&#8221;?  If some enterprising inventor wan&#8217;t to form a start-up based on a new. clever, low-cost way of extracting oil, that&#8217;s great.</p>
<p>I might even buy 50 bucks of his 5 cent shares, on the off chance he actually does something useful.</p>
<p>The bigger more mature oil companies may choose to invest or not in his work using a more quantitative economic model.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t see the purpose of the government quantifying sub economic resources. Once the technology is developed, then the developer can hire exploration companies to do that sort of thing.  That&#8217;s like, our job.</p>
<p>As for state-owned companies vs private ones, developments like the Chinese interest in buying a 10% stake in BHP means that those lines are starting to blur.</p>
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		<title>By: Silver Fox</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Silver Fox]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Apr 2008 21:37:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wow! And thanks.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow! And thanks.</p>
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